Skepticism & the Pre-Science of the Bible.

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In a debate on Unbelievable the atheist Matt Dillahunty explains that one reason for his disbelief was because of the Bible and its science. This, notes Dillahunty, is because he “didn’t find it to be a reliable source on science” (1). He adds that it is neither reliable on the question of “origins” nor diseases such as leprosy. He argues that the “biblical cure for leprosy sounds a lot more like witchcraft” than anything else. Denis Lamoureux, a prominent professor of science, would argue that Dillahunty is justifying his skepticism based on an unwarranted assumption, namely that the Bible, as an ancient library of books, has to get science exactly right. He explains that “the Bible is not a book of science, but a book to meet the Lord… In fact, Holy Scripture features an ancient perspective of the structure, operation, and origin of the universe and life.” Lamoureux identifies several pre-scientific beliefs held by the biblical authors:

  1. The earth is flat. The word “earth” appears over 2500 times in the Old Testament (Hebrew: ‘eres) and 250 times in the New Testament (Greek: ge). Never once is this word referred to as spherical or round. Instead, the universe in the Scripture is compared to a tent with the earth as its floor (Ps 19:4, Ps 104:2, Is 40:22).
  2. A circumferential sea borders a circular earth. Proverbs 8:22-31 and Job 26:7-14 describe the creation of the world. The former states, “God inscribed a circle on the face of the deep” (v. 27); and the latter, “God has inscribed a circle on the surface of the waters” (v. 10). The Bible also asserts that the earth is circular. Isaiah writes, “God sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in” (Isa 40:22).
  3. The earth is immovable. The Bible records three times that “the world is firmly established; it cannot move” (1 Chr 16:30, Ps 93:1, Ps 96:10). The stability of the earth is understood to be like that of a building set on the solid foundations. The biblical writers frequently refer to this solid base as “the foundations of earth” (Job 38:4-6, Prov 8:29, Jer 31:37). For example, “God set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved” (Ps 104:5).
  4. A solid domed structure, termed the “firmament,” holds up a body of water over the earth. Created on the second day of creation, the firmament separated the “waters above” from the “waters below” (Gen 1:6-8). Notably, this heavenly dome and body of water did not collapse during Noah’s Flood. As the psalms of King David’s day reveal, “The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament proclaims the work of His hands” (Ps 19:1); and God “stretches out the heavens like a tent and lays the beams of His upper chambers [i.e., God’s celestial temple] on their waters” (Ps 104:2-3).
  5. The sun moves across the sky. Created and placed in the firmament on the fourth day of creation (Gen 1:14-18), the daily movement of sun is found in King Solomon’s observation: “The sun rises and the sun goes down, and hurries to the place where it rises” (Eccl 1:5). It also appears in the psalmist’s praise, “The sun rises at one end of the heavens and makes its circuit to the other” (Ps 19:6).

Lamoureux moreover claims that “many Christians are quick to point out that all of passages cited above are only “appearances” in nature. That is, these are phenomenological descriptions (Greek phainomenon: appearance). The earth “looks” flat, “seems” to be surrounded by water, and “feels” stationary; the sky gives the “impression” of being a blue body of water overhead; and the sun “appears” to cross the dome of the sky, rising and setting every day. However, to ancient peoples like the biblical authors and their readers, these are descriptions of the actual structure and operation of the universe. As history reveals, the notion that the earth was immovable and that the sun moved daily across the sky was part of astronomy up until the early 1600s.”

If Lamoureux is correct then it would render skepticism of the Bible from a scientific perspective unjustified simply because, as David Robertson explains, “the Bible is not a scientific textbook… I think it is a big mistake for people to take the Bible as an encyclopaedia for everything it isn’t” (3). Christian Old Testament scholar Peter Enns argues that God adopted the mythic categories within which [Israel] thought (4). Enns pens that the “opening chapters of Genesis participate in a worldview that the earliest Israelites shared with their Mesopotamian neighbors. To put it this way is  not to concede ground to liberalism or unbelief but to understand the simple fact that the stories in Genesis had a context within which they were first understood. And that context was not a modern scientific one but an ancient mythic one.” Lamoureux, in much agreement with Enns, believes that God “came down to the level of the ancient biblical writers and employed their understanding of the physical world in order to communicate as effectively as possible life-changing spiritual truths.” As a result Lamoureux urges us not to “go to the Bible to find scientific facts; go to Scripture to meet Jesus.” Instead, “God revealed the inerrant message of faith that He created the world, not how He created it.”


1. Unbelievable. 2014. Why I am not a Christian – Matt Dillahunty vs David Robertson – Unbelievable? Available.

2. Lamoureux, D. 2009. The Ancient Science in the Bible. Available.

3. Unbelievable. 2014. Ibid.

4. Enns, P. 2015. Inspiration and Incarnation. p. 87 (Scribd ebook format). Also see Bishop, J. 2016. Genesis Creation Narrative as Myth. A Perspective. Available.

5 responses to “Skepticism & the Pre-Science of the Bible.

  1. I am glad to see a consistent thread in your posts, regarding Biblical Inerrancy. But whereas you have concluded that the Bible is still accurate with respect to its core theology, the other possible conclusion is that even that core theology is just a reflection of the beliefs of those who wrote it – in their attempts to make sense of their world (much like the sacred texts of every other religion in the world).

    • I would say you’re not entirely wrong there. Take a book like Job or my personal favorite Ecclesiastes. They’re excellent examples of proverbial literature that describes your very conclusion of trying to make sense of the world. If what the authors believed is indeed true, I would expect nothing else. And it’s same with something like the Koran (thought I was going to deny it, hey?). Your little jab at the end there regarding other sacred books is the very problem with your attempt to undermine the Bible. It’s illogical. We need to look beyond face value and examine what each text independently teaches and records then weigh the evidence.

      For example, I wouldn’t go to a debate and conclude both speakers are wrong just because they see the world through those beliefs. I would try to look objectively at what each believes and come to the most logical conclusion. Same with the sacred books.

      I’m sorry man, but your comment really didn’t say anything.

      • Sorry for the delayed response. I didn’t see your post until now.

        I didn’t claim that the Bible MUST be wrong. I merely pointed out the possibility that the core theology is just a reflection of the beliefs of those who wrote it.

        And I agree that one should evaluate the claims against the evidence. James has recently posted a number of other articles that attempt to present such evidence. As I’ve noted in my responses to those posts, the evidence is very weak.

        Your other comments (referring to my “little jab” and your final sentence), are nothing more than out-of-hand dismissals, offered in lieu of a substantive response.

  2. Am I justified, then, in putting “it appeared to people 2000 years ago that…” in front of every Bible quote and story given to me?
    It appeared to people 2000 years ago that… Jesus died.
    It appeared to people 2000 years ago that… Jesus rose from the dead
    It appeared to people 2000 years ago that… the entire earth was flooded

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